Log file opened at: 5/13/06 10:33:29 AM [10:33:29 AM] [10:09:14 AM] *** You have joined the channel [10:09:14 AM] freenode-connect VERSION request [10:09:18 AM] meltedswiss hola [10:09:49 AM] *** jochenhartmann (n=jochenha@128.238.241.47) has joined the channel [10:09:52 AM] strudeau cue entrance music [10:09:54 AM] strudeau drumroll [10:09:59 AM] *** crunchywelch (n=welch@128.238.241.40) has joined the channel [10:10:02 AM] crunchywelch oh sweet [10:10:02 AM] *** jochenhartmann has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:10:02 AM] crunchywelch its on koenig [10:10:02 AM] josh_k dude, crunchywelch sucks ass [10:10:02 AM] Fool2 PARTY [10:10:02 AM] * strudeau wonders where's the wiki [10:10:02 AM] crunchywelch wikis are communist [10:10:02 AM] josh_k hey, I'm Josh Kohen according to Noel [10:10:33 AM] *** GregoryHeller has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:10:43 AM] josh_k wikis pollute our precious bodily fluids [10:10:47 AM] advodude no you aren't [10:10:49 AM] *** deannaz (n=koiwwiji@128.238.241.76) has joined the channel [10:10:53 AM] advodude you are Josh Cohen [10:11:10 AM] josh_k My ulcles Joel and Ethan will smite yu [10:11:24 AM] crunchywelch lollersk8ts [10:11:39 AM] crunchywelch blackmailster.com demo time [10:12:10 AM] josh_k you have to give it at least 200% more AJAX [10:12:39 AM] *** eric0 (n=eric@laotan.openflows.org) has joined the channel [10:12:50 AM] *** jochenhartmann (n=jochenha@128.238.241.47) has joined the channel [10:12:51 AM] MacRonin ah windows [10:13:08 AM] *** michaelconnery (n=michaelc@128.238.241.60) has joined the channel [10:13:25 AM] josh_k what was the name of the gentleman who was repping from Brooklyn Polytech [10:13:27 AM] josh_k ? [10:13:33 AM] jochenhartmann carl something [10:13:36 AM] Fool2 What's a tag? [10:13:45 AM] deannaz tag = keyword [10:13:49 AM] advodude its a nerd thinfg [10:13:54 AM] Fool2 ah, shit [10:14:45 AM] advodude tags = pain [10:14:51 AM] deannaz gah [10:15:45 AM] deannaz can we capture the URLs people are announcing here? [10:15:53 AM] advodude quilted.org [10:16:11 AM] jochenhartmann bfi.org == terrible and slow site but drupal nonetheless [10:16:23 AM] Fool2 oh, I forgot to say a URL [10:16:27 AM] deannaz jimhightower.com [10:16:32 AM] advodude radicalreference.info [10:16:58 AM] Fool2 mine: sbindependent.org campusbin.com [10:16:59 AM] advodude http://radicalreference.info/ [10:17:33 AM] crunchywelch museums of glass ar radical [10:17:38 AM] advodude make sure to include the http so links work [10:17:42 AM] strudeau http://pando.com [10:17:48 AM] *** vade (n=vade@128.238.241.35) has joined the channel [10:17:53 AM] strudeau http://nysenatedems.com/ [10:19:23 AM] vade note - turn off cell phones plz! [10:19:31 AM] vade and mute those laptops! [10:19:35 AM] strudeau also looking for feedback on a very much in development site: http://sappycards.com/prefab/ [10:20:17 AM] advodude http://civicactions.org [10:20:38 AM] jochenhartmann http://quilted.org [10:20:43 AM] advodude woops [10:20:44 AM] advodude http://www.civicactions.com/ [10:20:47 AM] nonecknoel but he still buys from itunes [10:21:55 AM] advodude http://www.musicforamerica.org [10:22:21 AM] *** GregoryHeller_ (n=chatzill@128.238.241.92) has joined the channel [10:22:22 AM] *** GregoryHeller_ is now known as GregoryHeller [10:23:31 AM] meltedswiss what was that guy's site? [10:23:34 AM] meltedswiss codera.us? [10:23:49 AM] deannaz someone sitting near him -- poke him :-) [10:23:52 AM] vade coera [10:23:53 AM] Fool2 I just bought this laptop because I felt I'd be out of place here without one [10:23:54 AM] vade .us [10:24:04 AM] Fool2 I was right. [10:24:32 AM] GregoryHeller finally, i am back on. Does anyone have a good dns server that i could use? [10:24:32 AM] meltedswiss danke! [10:24:37 AM] advodude http://coera.us/ [10:25:00 AM] GregoryHeller I should have said, about CivicActions.com.... we are always looking for drupal hackers to work with us as ICs [10:25:04 AM] advodude http://www.trellon.com/ [10:25:20 AM] alexisgo coera.us [10:25:23 AM] advodude http://www.outlandishjosh.com/wordpress/ [10:25:26 AM] GregoryHeller What is a Pirate's least favorite technology? [10:25:36 AM] GregoryHeller "D ARRRRRRRRRRR M" [10:25:45 AM] josh_k vee ayieeeee [10:25:49 AM] advodude that was innapropriate [10:25:53 AM] meltedswiss callitdemocracy.com [10:26:03 AM] deannaz i'm wearing my pirate t-shirt today, too! arrrrrr [10:26:18 AM] advodude http://callitdemocracy.com/ [10:26:23 AM] meltedswiss he's wearing his porn shirt [10:26:29 AM] GregoryHeller what is a pirate's favorite web technology? ARRRRRRRRR S S [10:26:33 AM] vade hey its not porn [10:26:36 AM] vade its *art* [10:26:38 AM] advodude Drrrrrrrrupal [10:26:38 AM] vade :D [10:27:15 AM] advodude its porn art [10:27:16 AM] *** lev-rickards (n=lev-rick@128.238.241.97) has joined the channel [10:27:25 AM] crunchywelch if only there was some way to embed music files in an rss feed [10:27:29 AM] alexisgo Alex Rollin / ClientServices/Training/Marketing/TechnologyProcessIntegration I worked for Agilent and Motorola during the tech boom. Now I live in DC. I am involved in http://spiraldynamics.net and http://integralinstitute.org while I blog on my http://coera.us and my brand is under reconstruction at http://peerproducers.com tags: peerproduction clientside [10:27:38 AM] vade crunchywelch: you cant embed them [10:27:42 AM] vade but you can reference them [10:28:07 AM] meltedswiss well, you can use the enclosure [10:28:14 AM] meltedswiss that element is what everyone is using. [10:28:18 AM] josh_k crunchywelch: you're a dick [10:28:21 AM] crunchywelch :P [10:28:24 AM] *** seanr (n=chatzill@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [10:28:28 AM] deannaz i have two arts-related projects that need developers, btw [10:28:47 AM] deannaz and they might actually have budgets ;-) [10:28:51 AM] advodude http://www.advomatic.com [10:28:54 AM] advodude drop us a line [10:28:57 AM] crunchywelch we should have a developer / client job fair session for people looking for help or clients [10:29:03 AM] advodude good call [10:29:03 AM] seanr Hello [10:29:05 AM] vade thats a good idea crunchywelch [10:29:07 AM] eric0 http://openflows.org http://iatsenbf.org http://rainforestfoundation.org http://freegovinfo.info http://radicalreference.info http://interactivist.net [10:29:20 AM] deannaz 1. howlfestival.com (emailed the list about this); 2. booking system for bowery poetry club bowerypoetry.com [10:29:23 AM] jochenhartmann my record-label for noise stuff: http://phaserprone.com [10:29:33 AM] seanr deannaz, what kind of stuff? [10:29:51 AM] *** DerekT (n=DerekT@128.238.241.43) has joined the channel [10:29:55 AM] Fool2 anybody like !!!? [10:30:08 AM] *** libkuman (i=libkuman@nyc.openflows.org) has joined the channel [10:30:25 AM] deannaz howlfestival desperately needs events management; [10:30:29 AM] crunchywelch oh it'll push you over the edge! oh yeah! HAHAHAHAHAhahahaahaaHAHAHQQqQNN>xc [10:30:30 AM] meltedswiss oh, let's totally talk about our favorite bands! [10:30:38 AM] Fool2 YEAH! [10:30:42 AM] deannaz so that producers can go log in an manage their festival events [10:31:23 AM] advodude http://www.dfsi.org/ [10:31:24 AM] Fool2 anyway, Events module can do that [10:31:39 AM] *** seanr_ (n=chatzill@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [10:31:49 AM] deannaz i have indeed heard that it can ;-) [10:31:56 AM] Fool2 I haven't tried 4.7 with it yet. [10:32:08 AM] deannaz i'd prolly design it and am looking for a partner to help implement [10:32:25 AM] advodude http://advomatic.com [10:32:42 AM] bpuccio http://blackmailster.com/ [10:32:48 AM] advodude http://blackmailster.com [10:33:10 AM] josh_k Fool2: 4.7 is teh hotness [10:33:23 AM] josh_k makes it much more nice for the users when entering content [10:33:26 AM] deannaz the other events manager project, bowerypoetry.com, is a lonnnnnng story, but it's mostly an internal venue management system with a public component [10:33:29 AM] meltedswiss blackmailster.com totally has tags [10:33:29 AM] meltedswiss advoliar [10:33:46 AM] Fool2 The Jscripts are great [10:33:49 AM] crunchywelch tag me liar! [10:33:53 AM] crunchywelch muhahahahaha [10:34:10 AM] Fool2 Forms API kept flip flopping during beta and RC though [10:34:19 AM] Fool2 Had to keep fixing my project [10:34:34 AM] advodude http://www.airamericaradio.com [10:35:54 AM] *** GregoryHeller_ (n=chatzill@128.238.241.92) has joined the channel [10:36:25 AM] *** GregoryHeller has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:36:37 AM] *** GregoryHeller_ is now known as GregoryHeller [10:37:18 AM] meltedswiss rochester is the worst city in america [10:37:21 AM] advodude I'm gonna showcase some impressive drupal sites in a bit.. if you have a good one, let me know [10:37:35 AM] Fool2 I went there once [10:37:42 AM] Fool2 a rainy day in october [10:37:49 AM] crunchywelch liar tag is teh hawt [10:37:49 AM] vade no Worchester is the worst city in America [10:38:04 AM] DerekT all republicans don't suck. [10:38:08 AM] advodude thats true [10:38:12 AM] Fool2 No [10:38:13 AM] vade they blow? [10:38:17 AM] Fool2 Not all republicans suck [10:38:17 AM] advodude only the ones in charge [10:38:18 AM] DerekT lol [10:38:22 AM] jochenhartmann advodude: quilted.org did http://onthecommons.org [10:38:58 AM] *** Tresler (n=sam@128.238.241.85) has joined the channel [10:39:05 AM] meltedswiss prwatch.org [10:39:13 AM] Fool2 I've seen that site, it's god [10:39:15 AM] Fool2 good* [10:39:19 AM] meltedswiss http://prwatch.org [10:39:33 AM] *** DerekT is now known as NetworkAffect [10:39:38 AM] crunchywelch sweet [10:39:45 AM] crunchywelch now we have to play the name game [10:39:49 AM] crunchywelch IM arron and I have an alligator [10:39:49 AM] crunchywelch *aaron [10:40:15 AM] jochenhartmann advodude: http://bfi.org is pretty intense for a drupal site. a little slow though [10:40:42 AM] advodude 49 minutes [10:40:58 AM] crunchywelch we need to get irc on the projector [10:41:07 AM] deannaz advodude: http://www.jimhightower.com/ [10:41:12 AM] vade http://share.dj/share/ - lets talk about that. I want to port the multimedia code and calendar code to drupal [10:41:26 AM] advodude advodude = adam mordecai fyi [10:42:00 AM] meltedswiss meltedswiss - Matt K and Sam N [10:42:30 AM] *** Voting911 (i=Voting91@93.sub-70-193-65.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [10:43:27 AM] Fool2 vade, looks like a perfect application [10:43:34 AM] *** aaronwinborn (n=chatzill@128.238.241.111) has joined the channel [10:44:02 AM] *** Voting911 is now known as EricLLazarus [10:44:06 AM] *** RobPierson (n=piersonr@128.238.241.109) has joined the channel [10:44:09 AM] vade my only concern is the multimedia metadata tracking I had to write [10:44:35 AM] vade there is a lot of backend code and db schema that needed to be just right. so im curious how 'maliable' drupals backend is [10:45:18 AM] josh_k vade: in terms of your own modules, it's really up to you [10:45:22 AM] *** vas is now known as VasKottas [10:45:29 AM] josh_k like, you make your own db schema for your content [10:45:46 AM] EricLLazarus I'm that guy who wants help with my PracticalElectionAdministration podcast/drupal site. Anyone interested in helping county elections administrators at doing a better job with their election management? [10:45:46 AM] josh_k you choose how to insert, load, and update it [10:45:48 AM] NetworkAffect will rsa keyfob authentication work with mysql? [10:45:56 AM] Fool2 yeah, nodes are just a suggestion [10:45:58 AM] *** rwj (n=rob@128.238.241.58) has joined the channel [10:46:36 AM] vade josh_k: yeah, ill have to pay attention in the dev session [10:46:41 AM] *** NetworkAffect is now known as NetAffect [10:46:46 AM] josh_k nodes are also really extensible [10:46:56 AM] josh_k like, you can use all the node hooks, but content-wise [10:47:07 AM] josh_k all that gives you is title, author, publish date and some other stuff [10:47:17 AM] josh_k you can ignore that stuff or extend it or supress it [10:47:18 AM] vade nice. ill have to write and port some info-visualization stuff over to drupal :) [10:47:34 AM] vade how extensible is the metadata architecture? is it limited? [10:48:00 AM] josh_k it's as extensible as you want to make it [10:48:08 AM] josh_k so, if you're talking about doing file management [10:48:09 AM] Fool2 I believe there is a "data" field in which you can store whatever you want [10:48:13 AM] vade like, do the built in drupal modules have limitations . ah. ok, i [10:48:27 AM] strudeau if you have pretty simple metadata needs [10:48:34 AM] strudeau The Content Creation Kit on 4.7 [10:48:40 AM] strudeau combined with the Views module [10:48:41 AM] vade haha sorry josh :D [10:48:43 AM] *** jochenhartmann is now known as jochen [10:48:44 AM] strudeau is nice [10:49:01 AM] *** jochen is now known as jochen_h [10:49:09 AM] crunchywelch it also chains you to it for eternity! [10:49:19 AM] vade sorry for the noob questions. never ran drupal before :D [10:49:23 AM] *** seanr__ (n=chatzill@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [10:50:21 AM] crunchywelch mapthing p0wn5 gmapper [10:50:49 AM] josh_k dude, they're all gonna get fuxxored by my MSlivemapperthing.module and API framework [10:51:00 AM] advodude http://www.civicspacelabs.org [10:51:02 AM] josh_k it's got 200% more AJAX [10:51:11 AM] josh_k http://www.drup.us [10:51:26 AM] crunchywelch too bad IE7 wont support API frameworks because of eolas [10:51:42 AM] crunchywelch :O [10:51:47 AM] crunchywelch good question [10:52:04 AM] josh_k themes work the same as modules I think [10:52:09 AM] crunchywelch think so [10:52:36 AM] Fool2 phptemplate is beautiful [10:52:36 AM] *** ashtonium (n=Kevin@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [10:52:38 AM] crunchywelch Im making a rotary theme engine that runs on biodiesel [10:53:54 AM] ashtonium how very green of you [10:53:55 AM] michaelconnery I'm a newbie at this. Define CVS? [10:54:09 AM] Fool2 content... [10:54:10 AM] eric0 code repository [10:54:15 AM] strudeau it's a version control system [10:54:15 AM] Fool2 vvvvv system [10:54:22 AM] jochen_h http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/ [10:54:23 AM] Fool2 conurrent [10:54:24 AM] strudeau you "check in" your code and it keeps track of changes [10:54:27 AM] strudeau over time [10:54:31 AM] eric0 cvs is a code repository that "versions" code. so you keep track of changes over time [10:54:31 AM] ashtonium code versioning system? [10:54:36 AM] bpuccio CVs reffers to either one of two things, either the most current version of Drupal (i.e, Drupal CVS akak Drupal HEAD) or CVS the software, which is source code tracking [10:54:37 AM] strudeau so you can roll back to old version when things break, e.g. [10:54:45 AM] jochen_h is a version control system, an important component of Source Configuration Management (SCM). Using it, you can record the history of sources files, and documents. It fills a similar role to the free software RCS, PRCS, and Aegis packages. [10:54:46 AM] michaelconnery thanks. the link is helpful. [10:54:48 AM] *** GregoryHeller has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:54:49 AM] jochen_h CVS is a production quality system in wide use around the world, including many free software projects. [10:55:15 AM] strudeau Gregory also mentioned SVN which does the same thing as CVS but in different ways [10:55:16 AM] Fool2 it's free itself [10:55:18 AM] bpuccio drupal4bloggers is an example of a fork that died (I think) [10:55:36 AM] crunchywelch the nice thing about having your own cvs repository is the extra work you make for yourself [10:55:46 AM] Fool2 Anyway, no reason to fork anyway you can do anything without modifying core [10:55:51 AM] *** seanr_ has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [10:56:18 AM] *** dopry (n=dopry@128.238.241.22) has joined the channel [10:57:16 AM] NetAffect any hardcore lovers of table manager in the house. i love giving my users the power to update data. [10:58:46 AM] strudeau CCK = Content Creation Kit [10:58:57 AM] crunchywelch where is moshe? [10:58:58 AM] *** seanr has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [10:59:13 AM] alexisgo coopetition rocks [11:00:01 AM] advodude anyone else got a site to pimp? [11:00:22 AM] crunchywelch http://www.pimpzilla.nl/index.html [11:01:01 AM] crunchywelch uhm cause amsterdam is radical [11:01:10 AM] *** [1]PERFECT (n=PERFECT@128.238.241.52) has joined the channel [11:01:15 AM] ashtonium http://synapticflux.com is in need of some pimpin' [11:01:15 AM] EricLLazarus If I am going to use drupal in a very basic way to allow election administrators to ask one another questions about best practices, give us ideas for our podcasts, etc. should I be using civic space, basic drupal or something else? [11:01:45 AM] jochen_h advomatic: this site is totally still in DEV but the javascript mouseover thing is kind of cool: http://www.comphost.org/~psnowo/drupal/ [11:02:01 AM] jochen_h advodude: this site is totally still in DEV but the javascript mouseover thing is kind of cool: http://www.comphost.org/~psnowo/drupal/ [11:02:06 AM] *** nonecknoel has quit IRC () [11:02:08 AM] crunchywelch EricLLazarus: if you are doing it yourself i would look at civicspace for ease of install/config. if developers are doing it or you are doing heavy dev use drupal [11:02:55 AM] crunchywelch its 4pm in london [11:05:46 AM] *** nonecknoel (n=noneck@128.238.241.95) has joined the channel [11:07:34 AM] crunchywelch i should have put a bunch of porn sites in his history for hilarious pulldown urlbar fun [11:08:11 AM] crunchywelch someone needs his meds [11:08:38 AM] ashtonium url for this site? [11:08:51 AM] crunchywelch you can always goto /user to see if it looks like drupal or not [11:09:52 AM] meltedswiss what's that hot url? [11:10:00 AM] meltedswiss terminus1525.ca.us? [11:10:11 AM] *** jb___ (n=jb@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [11:11:00 AM] NetAffect hoturlgrey [11:11:29 AM] crunchywelch this is a pretty deep drupal site content-wise http://www.howtoforge.com/ [11:11:30 AM] deannaz www.terminus1525.ca [11:11:31 AM] Fool2 http://groups.drupal.org/new-york-city [11:13:16 AM] *** seanr__ has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:13:28 AM] *** Rob_P (n=piersonr@128.238.241.109) has joined the channel [11:16:59 AM] *** vade_ (n=vade@bam.idmi.poly.edu) has joined the channel [11:17:11 AM] *** rwj has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [11:17:29 AM] *** Tresler has quit IRC () [11:18:15 AM] *** Tresler (n=sam@128.238.241.85) has joined the channel [11:18:35 AM] Fool2 AJAX + Drupal fun [11:19:18 AM] crunchywelch AJAX = spinning circle wheel of death [11:20:09 AM] NetAffect the spinning biatchball [11:20:14 AM] *** libkuman has quit IRC ("Lost terminal") [11:21:13 AM] [1]PERFECT What is that ste? TymCafe ?? [11:21:31 AM] meltedswiss tpmcafe [11:21:39 AM] meltedswiss http://www.tpmcafe.com/ [11:21:56 AM] [1]PERFECT thx. [11:22:44 AM] Fool2 Custom image assocation module: http://www.sbindependent.org/node/981/photos/987 [11:23:14 AM] Fool2 images are nodes and they are associated in context to stories [11:23:15 AM] *** RobPierson has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:23:19 AM] bpuccio and that subdomain thing requires that you have complete control over your DNS server (which leaves out people using shared hosting at times), right? [11:23:19 AM] meltedswiss http://goldmanprize.org [11:23:22 AM] *** discursives (n=discursi@128.238.241.65) has joined the channel [11:23:41 AM] vade_ you could probably rig it with writing your own .htaccess files [11:23:44 AM] vade_ if you run on apache [11:23:56 AM] vade_ (for subdomain redirects ) [11:24:03 AM] crunchywelch bpuccio: you can wildcard dns and apache for subdomain [11:24:32 AM] crunchywelch most shared hosts allow wildcard dns, apache may be more of a problem [11:25:02 AM] bpuccio crunchywelch: ok, cool, thanks, I use VPS's pretty much to avoid any "well our control panel doesn't let you do that" but other people I know might have trouble, thank you both for your suggestions [11:25:31 AM] NetAffect hooks? [11:26:03 AM] crunchywelch hooks are the bomb [11:26:10 AM] crunchywelch hook_bomb [11:26:17 AM] NetAffect a css thing? [11:26:23 AM] josh_k it's a php thing [11:26:28 AM] josh_k drupal defines a bunch of functions [11:26:30 AM] VasKottas places in a system that are designed to let people add new/different functionality without having to change the underlying system [11:26:34 AM] crunchywelch they are default functons drupal calls that you can use [11:26:38 AM] josh_k for themeing [11:26:38 AM] VasKottas (in code) [11:26:39 AM] NetAffect cool [11:26:41 AM] josh_k they all start with theme_ [11:26:51 AM] josh_k http://drupaldocs.org/theme_ [11:26:54 AM] ashtonium theme_hook_bomb [11:26:59 AM] josh_k there are a lot [11:27:04 AM] crunchywelch all theme hooks start with theme_ there are also system hooks [11:27:26 AM] josh_k but there are a smaller group that you start with which define the major elements [11:27:35 AM] *** vade has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:27:38 AM] josh_k and then you can focus down a little tighter [11:27:57 AM] NetAffect many thanks [11:28:10 AM] josh_k like, for instance [11:28:11 AM] josh_k http://drupaldocs.org/api/head/function/theme_username [11:28:16 AM] crunchywelch I like to override theme_xml_icon [11:28:18 AM] josh_k controls how usernames are displayed [11:28:26 AM] josh_k all the theme functions [11:28:27 AM] josh_k can be "overridden" [11:28:30 AM] crunchywelch http://drupaldocs.org/api/head/function/theme_xml_icon [11:28:36 AM] josh_k without actually changing any of the core code [11:28:50 AM] josh_k you can put your own "override" function in your theme file [11:28:53 AM] NetAffect carterfornevada.com [11:29:01 AM] josh_k and drupal will use that rather than the standard function [11:29:14 AM] josh_k this gives you a lot of flexibility without you having to alter any of the core modules [11:29:25 AM] josh_k so you can have a pretty customized theme without forking your codebase [11:29:50 AM] EricLLazarus If the main point of my site is the podcast/radio program, is there anything special I should be thinking about with regard to my drupal site? [11:30:41 AM] EricLLazarus I want someone to be able to click on the link and listen even if they dont have any speical software around and to comment on what they heard.... [11:31:17 AM] discursives xlecom.com themedeveloper XLS program is great for the beginner themer [11:31:17 AM] *** libkuman (i=libkuman@nyc.openflows.org) has joined the channel [11:31:18 AM] jochen_h http://onthecommons.org [11:31:39 AM] *** seanr (n=chatzill@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [11:32:08 AM] discursives http://xlecom.com/?q=node/151 [11:32:09 AM] seanr http://www.welchforcongress.com [11:32:24 AM] deannaz eric: we have that for JH.com; i believe it's part of the basic functionality that you can include a file (in this case, an MP3) that will appear in your content posting [11:33:20 AM] NetAffect thanks josh [11:33:47 AM] aaronwinborn http://www.securingamerica.com [11:34:30 AM] crunchywelch Im running on a no pants platform [11:34:40 AM] crunchywelch where I get on platforms with no pants on [11:35:16 AM] *** seanr has quit IRC (Client Quit) [11:37:34 AM] EricLLazarus deannaz, thanks! [11:37:40 AM] discursives http://xlecom.com/?q=node/151 is the free drupal theme generator and one thing that;s nice about it is that it does come with a PNG image that shows the data type output from the DB parsed and where it goes on the page so you can match up in your mind the visual layout with the data from the DB and develop an operating vocabulary. it even lets you do simple testing and verify code so you can see it all in action. for myself as a beginner i fou [11:38:08 AM] discursives discursives = alexisgo [11:38:08 AM] aaronwinborn i believe that in the cvs of image.module now has image association [11:38:25 AM] Fool2 oh, god [11:38:28 AM] Fool2 good* [11:39:04 AM] Fool2 image.module is inadequate for image heavy sites as it is, I had to use acidfree for a gallery site [11:40:26 AM] bpuccio anyone know if there were any plans kicking around to have image.module (or image_addons.module) do things with EXIF and the like, such as change the node creation date to the date embedded in EXIF? [11:41:20 AM] ashtonium such as the way the audio module reads the audio file's meta-data? [11:43:39 AM] bpuccio pretty much, I guess I should look at that, thank you [11:43:39 AM] [1]PERFECT Modules page? Any Link? [11:44:01 AM] bpuccio http://drupal.org/project/Modules [11:44:07 AM] [1]PERFECT thx. [11:44:17 AM] Fool2 beat me to'it [11:44:48 AM] dopry Anton? [11:44:52 AM] strudeau IIRC there's a proposed Google Summer of Code project to implement hooks into ImageMagick [11:44:55 AM] strudeau http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php [11:44:58 AM] strudeau which seems cool [11:45:03 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: Amazon Module ---- book# pulls in details. [11:45:34 AM] strudeau which might help with EXIF manipulation [11:45:37 AM] NetAffect gsitemap [11:45:41 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: Module to update google GSITE [11:45:49 AM] Fool2 yeah, not everyone has Imagemagick though [11:45:58 AM] bpuccio thank you, strudeau [11:46:18 AM] Fool2 I haven't been on a shared host yet that had it. GD is okay [11:46:26 AM] meltedswiss so gmapsite module and pathauto module - free googlejuice [11:46:28 AM] bpuccio I'd actually be reading EXIF from my camera's raw files, so I'd be using exiftools, imagemegick doesn't support the raw files [11:46:31 AM] strudeau ImageMagick is free [11:46:39 AM] strudeau if your host doesn't have and it and you need it, move [11:46:57 AM] bpuccio a note about pathauto, there are scaling problems with it on 4.6 I think, 4.7 takes care of them [11:47:01 AM] Fool2 has anybody used the facebook image uploader? [11:47:09 AM] EricLLazarus what are the google analitics? [11:47:35 AM] meltedswiss a free porn service from google. [11:47:44 AM] meltedswiss it's really hot [11:47:49 AM] bpuccio google anylatics is visitor stats, I think it is based upon the Urchin software that they bought [11:48:13 AM] meltedswiss and google analtics is what you get if you spend too much time on analitics. [11:48:41 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: Module LoginToLogin >>> to be integrated in 4.8 [11:49:28 AM] vade_ use getid3 library, its open source metadata parser for many different types of media container formats. it gets EXIF data natively [11:49:42 AM] Fool2 Captcha module is very good now [11:49:44 AM] vade_ http://getid3.sourceforge.net/ [11:49:55 AM] ashtonium yes, google analytics is pretty much Urchin, but they've been adding some stuff to it [11:50:07 AM] Fool2 It's insane [11:50:15 AM] ashtonium it's pretty much information overload [11:50:15 AM] Fool2 I got it before they cut registration [11:50:23 AM] Fool2 It's a little creepy [11:50:23 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: Oopps ... LoginToboggan [11:50:40 AM] ashtonium yeah, same [11:50:40 AM] Fool2 but way better than server-side stuff [11:51:32 AM] *** ircleuser (n=IRR@215.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [11:52:21 AM] bpuccio vade_: I'll give it a try this weekend, see if it reads my camera's raw files [11:52:52 AM] Fool2 that would be great. 4MB uploads are a pain though [11:53:17 AM] vade_ yeah getID3 is the fucking shit. its really awesome. Ive integrated it into my CMS and it lets me read basically everything in. camera raw is kind of an od beast though, as different vendors have different formats [11:53:37 AM] *** ircleuser is now known as KasCameo [11:53:42 AM] Fool2 yeah, I just use picassa for bulk jpg output [11:53:45 AM] Tresler Is he talking about layout "tables" or database tables? [11:53:53 AM] vade_ which is why only larger companies know how to read the CCD formats and metadata. RAW isnt really a 'file format', as much as 'raw data that takes whatever format the manufacturer chooses [11:54:08 AM] bpuccio vade_: yeah, I tried several exif readers [11:54:32 AM] vade_ id say you could check out Light Room, but the beta is mac only now [11:54:37 AM] Fool2 the GD extension that shipped with 4.6 has no quality setting, which lets some bad jpgs out [11:54:44 AM] vade_ Adobes Photoshop RAW plugin is pretty good [11:55:02 AM] Tresler dateaninja.com [11:55:07 AM] jb___ dataninja.com [11:55:10 AM] jb___ shit [11:55:11 AM] jb___ too slow [11:55:14 AM] *** Rob_P has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:55:33 AM] crunchywelch dataninja.com needs to be made [11:55:44 AM] EricLLazarus If my server is hosting several sites, a media wiki instance, a couple of TomCat based sites and I want to use sub domains to pick out the different sub sites, can I use apache to handle the virtual hosting? If so, how? [11:56:00 AM] strudeau EL: yeah [11:56:11 AM] bpuccio vade_: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ is what I've been using to read exif, and I use dcraw by dave coffin (and ufraw, the front end to it) for going raw to tiff [11:56:23 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: .... post links for easy clicks ... HydraIrc keeps a URL Catcher .... http://www.askaninja.com/ [11:56:24 AM] strudeau would have to look up the apache conf syntax [11:57:33 AM] crunchywelch EricLLazarus: you would define one virtualhost directive, point it at drupal and use ServerAlias to catch all the subdomains you wanted pointed there [11:57:37 AM] vade_ bpuccio: ah, nice. I havent seen this tool. ill check it out [11:58:18 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: http://www.goodstorm.com/ [11:58:37 AM] NetAffect don't forget to send you mothers flowers. [11:58:45 AM] dopry ServerAlias *.example.com [11:58:59 AM] strudeau http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#serveralias [11:59:07 AM] [1]PERFECT Note: http://www.carterfornevada.com/ [11:59:38 AM] NetAffect zacknet.org [11:59:45 AM] strudeau http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#virtualhost [11:59:54 AM] NetAffect zacker [12:00:02 PM] meltedswiss http://zacker.org [12:00:12 PM] bpuccio http://lists.heydon.com.au/listinfo.cgi/ecommerce-heydon.com.au ecommerce mailing list for those who want it [12:00:30 PM] [1]PERFECT Note: Zack Rosen ... CivicSpace ... http://www.zacker.org/ [12:00:39 PM] *** advodude has quit IRC () [12:01:15 PM] meltedswiss http://mappingaccess.com [12:01:50 PM] crunchywelch sweet [12:02:08 PM] [1]PERFECT Note: ^^^ Great Google Maps Integration [12:02:59 PM] [1]PERFECT Note: http://www.askaninja.com/ <<<< also has a Google Map Integration Demo, gmap module [12:03:34 PM] discursives that is frappr, though...and the code is pulled from Frappr. [12:03:46 PM] alexisgo http://www.frappr.com/?a=widgetlandingg&gid=586781&src=js_map [12:03:47 PM] crunchywelch timeforanap.module [12:03:53 PM] [1]PERFECT thx. [12:04:16 PM] strudeau wonders where the hammocks are [12:04:31 PM] [1]PERFECT get a Red BULL [12:04:51 PM] ashtonium where for art they? [12:05:06 PM] [1]PERFECT One flight down [12:05:33 PM] *** RobPierson (n=piersonr@128.238.241.109) has joined the channel [12:05:34 PM] ashtonium ah, how convenient :) [12:05:39 PM] crunchywelch :'( [12:06:02 PM] crunchywelch what I want to know is where the rss feeds for cckare [12:06:05 PM] crunchywelch *cck are [12:06:19 PM] [1]PERFECT Coffee still <<< hall ? [12:06:29 PM] NetAffect hammockmap? [12:06:33 PM] dopry nods. [12:07:05 PM] NetAffect LUNCH!!!!!!! [12:07:16 PM] libkuman exit [12:07:18 PM] ashtonium WooT [12:07:18 PM] *** vade_ has quit IRC () [12:07:23 PM] *** libkuman has quit IRC ("leaving") [12:07:28 PM] strudeau wonders if Noel has a contract with Red Bull [12:07:33 PM] crunchywelch NO ONE LEAVES [12:07:50 PM] *** NetAffect has quit IRC ("The computer fell asleep") [12:07:51 PM] crunchywelch EATERIES [12:07:59 PM] crunchywelch FREE CELL PHONE [12:08:03 PM] meltedswiss get some whitecastle! [12:08:08 PM] meltedswiss all non nyc peeps [12:08:10 PM] *** bpuccio has quit IRC ("http://brianpuccio.net/") [12:08:25 PM] discursives http://mappingaccess.com/ [12:08:29 PM] jochen_h dopry: getting lunch somewhere ? [12:08:32 PM] discursives that site rocks [12:08:35 PM] jochen_h i used to work down here [12:08:39 PM] dopry jochen_h, sure... [12:08:40 PM] *** aaronwinborn has quit IRC ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.4.1/2005100614]") [12:08:46 PM] jochen_h rad, i know some good places [12:08:53 PM] *** michaelconnery has quit IRC () [12:08:55 PM] *** Tresler has quit IRC () [12:08:55 PM] *** lev-rickards has quit IRC () [12:08:56 PM] *** RobPierson has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:08:57 PM] discursives but i dont understand how important the legacy issue is between http://mappingaccess.com/ and whatever viciaction is doing [12:09:07 PM] *** meltedswiss has quit IRC () [12:09:09 PM] discursives i have client that want mapping integration, should I tell them to wait [12:09:16 PM] Info The connection to the server is no longer active [12:14:30 PM] Error Please open the connection before sending text to a channel [12:14:43 PM] *** Looking up your hostname... 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[1:02:34 PM] aaronwinborn i'm just resting my eyes, really [1:03:21 PM] MacRonin so how did you see this then? [1:04:02 PM] *** michaelconnery (n=michaelc@128.238.241.60) has joined the channel [1:04:54 PM] *** VasKottas (n=vkottas@128.238.241.176) has joined the channel [1:05:25 PM] *** gnat_x (n=gnat@128.238.241.159) has joined the channel [1:05:35 PM] *** jb___ (n=jb@128.238.241.186) has joined the channel [1:06:25 PM] *** lev-rickards (n=lev-rick@128.238.241.97) has joined the channel [1:06:50 PM] *** jb___ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [1:07:00 PM] *** lev-rickards has quit IRC (Client Quit) [1:07:14 PM] gnat_x is there a log of this channel up anywhere? [1:07:32 PM] *** NetAffect (n=DerekT@128.238.241.43) has joined the channel [1:08:49 PM] *** nonecknoel (n=noneck@128.238.241.95) has joined the channel [1:09:15 PM] *** jb___ (n=jb@128.238.241.186) has joined the channel [1:09:33 PM] MacRonin I turned on logging on my computer. I can make avail after the camp [1:10:04 PM] *** vade (n=vade@bam.idmi.poly.edu) has joined the channel [1:10:08 PM] *** jochenhartmann (n=jochenha@128.238.241.47) has joined the channel [1:10:09 PM] *** ashtonium (n=Kevin@128.238.241.164) has joined the channel [1:10:54 PM] *** meltedswiss (n=snarkhun@128.238.241.44) has joined the channel [1:11:21 PM] meltedswiss has anyone saved the log from the morning session? I forgot to before I closed my window! [1:12:18 PM] MacRonin I still have the same log open from this AM. I started logging about 15 minutes in. I can make avail after the camp [1:12:26 PM] *** ircleuser (n=IRR@128.238.241.188) has joined the channel [1:12:31 PM] meltedswiss excellent, tnx [1:12:43 PM] gnat_x MacRonin, thanks [1:12:44 PM] *** EricLLazarus (i=Voting91@22.sub-70-221-152.myvzw.com) has joined the channel [1:12:55 PM] *** ircleuser is now known as KasCameo [1:14:53 PM] *** PERFECT (n=PERFECT@128.238.241.52) has joined the channel [1:15:06 PM] *** seanr_ (n=chatzill@bam.idmi.poly.edu) has joined the channel [1:15:23 PM] *** Tresler (n=sam@128.238.241.85) has joined the channel [1:16:01 PM] PERFECT Note: MYSQ, phpmyadmin, [1:16:41 PM] PERFECT Note: Dreamhoast.com, site5.com, 10for10.com [1:16:57 PM] PERFECT Note: CuteFTP [1:17:06 PM] seanr_ Anyone know where I might be able to obtain a fork? ;-) [1:17:16 PM] seanr_ site5.com has major stability issues. [1:17:41 PM] PERFECT Seanr >>> 1st fl in servery [1:17:56 PM] seanr_ thx [1:19:01 PM] PERFECT Note: http://drupal.org/ [1:20:14 PM] *** bpuccio (n=brian@128.238.241.189) has joined the channel [1:20:57 PM] PERFECT Note: Step 1 ... Download Drupal ... http://drupal.org/drupal-4.7.0 [1:21:16 PM] PERFECT Note: Step 2 .... Provider [1:21:33 PM] PERFECT Note: Step 3 Setup FTP [1:24:32 PM] vade Step 4 - ?? Step 5 Make Money! [1:26:13 PM] *** Gur (n=gur@128.238.241.36) has joined the channel [1:28:59 PM] *** ashtonium has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [1:33:59 PM] NetAffect anybody care to share their favorite php for dummies resource? [1:34:11 PM] *** alexisgo (n=alex@128.238.241.65) has joined the channel [1:35:16 PM] *** GregoryHeller (n=chatzill@128.238.56.106) has joined the channel [1:35:32 PM] GregoryHeller ahhh... internet connection! [1:37:10 PM] seanr_ http://api.drupal.org/api/HEAD/function/theme_add_style [1:41:31 PM] PERFECT Note: http://www.mysql.com [1:41:47 PM] PERFECT Note: http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-5.0/mysql-5.0.21-win32.zip/from/pick [1:43:25 PM] seanr_ PERFECT: the cafeteria is closed and they had no forks in the lounge. :-( [1:43:42 PM] seanr_ I've got a bowl of pasta salad and no way to eat it. :-( [1:44:14 PM] *** seanr_ is now known as seanr [1:45:26 PM] *** strudeau (n=strudeau@128.238.241.54) has joined the channel [1:47:25 PM] strudeau is digging the dev session [1:54:08 PM] PERFECT Note: seanr .. :( [1:54:16 PM] *** jacobredding (n=jacobred@128.238.241.79) has joined the channel [1:55:06 PM] *** GregoryHeller has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [1:58:47 PM] *** deannaz (n=koiwwiji@128.238.241.76) has joined the channel [2:05:21 PM] nonecknoel hey kids if your falling asleep we've got some nice yummy coffee soda!!! [2:06:41 PM] meltedswiss where? [2:06:46 PM] meltedswiss not that I'm sleepy [2:06:50 PM] meltedswiss but I love coffee soda [2:06:54 PM] meltedswiss manhattan special? [2:07:25 PM] jacobredding in the cooler (bagel room) [2:07:36 PM] jacobredding under everything else [2:08:55 PM] vade that stuff scares me [2:09:05 PM] vade coffee soda is like .... [2:09:09 PM] vade crack-speed [2:09:18 PM] vade dont combine the two. bad. its like liquid 8ball [2:09:36 PM] jb___ manhattan special is a nyc institution [2:09:46 PM] jb___ don't talk trash about my soda heritage [2:09:47 PM] vade so are 8balls :D [2:10:01 PM] jb___ 8balls feel more...i dunno. miami. [2:10:17 PM] vade true. very miami vice [2:10:21 PM] vade either way ;) [2:18:14 PM] *** jacobredding has quit IRC () [2:19:23 PM] *** alexisgo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [2:23:51 PM] MacRonin TextMate Drupal Bundle - http://www.acko.net/blog/textmate-drupal-bundle [2:23:59 PM] MacRonin It generates autocomplete snippets for all of Drupal. Simply type the function name and hit tab to see all the arguments. Each argument is a separate placeholder so you can easily tab from one to the other. [2:24:14 PM] strudeau nice [2:24:22 PM] *** jacobredding (n=jacobred@128.238.241.79) has joined the channel [2:24:27 PM] MacRonin This is for Mac users who tyextmate as their text editor of choice [2:24:50 PM] strudeau I might have to go back to TextMate from TextWrangler [2:31:41 PM] jb___ is txtmate free? [2:31:59 PM] strudeau nope [2:32:12 PM] jb___ bummer [2:32:17 PM] strudeau http://macromates.com/ [2:32:23 PM] MacRonin No its$39 pounds or is it euro I think. But it does have a 30 day trial [2:32:28 PM] strudeau euro [2:32:43 PM] strudeau I use TextWrangler for that reason [2:33:04 PM] strudeau and I've written some perl scripts for TextWrangler [2:33:15 PM] strudeau which have been handy for some data wrangling [2:36:55 PM] *** alexisgo (n=alex@128.238.241.65) has joined the channel [2:42:40 PM] PERFECT Q: for development machines .... Apache? [2:42:40 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** now talking in #drupal-camp [2:42:40 PM] PERFECT [13:14] [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [2:42:40 PM] PERFECT [13:14] [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [2:42:41 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** channel #drupal-camp mode is +sn [2:42:42 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** channel created at Sat May 13 10:01:34 2006 [2:42:44 PM] PERFECT [13:15] *** seanr_ (n=chatzill@bam.idmi.poly.edu) joined [2:42:46 PM] PERFECT [13:15] *** Tresler (n=sam@128.238.241.85) joined [2:42:48 PM] PERFECT [13:16] Note: MYSQ, phpmyadmin, [2:42:50 PM] PERFECT [13:16] Note: Dreamhoast.com, site5.com, 10for10.com [2:43:03 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** now talking in #drupal-camp [2:43:04 PM] PERFECT [13:14] [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [2:43:04 PM] PERFECT [13:14] [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [2:43:04 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** channel #drupal-camp mode is +sn [2:43:05 PM] PERFECT [13:14] *** channel created at Sat May 13 10:01:34 2006 [2:43:06 PM] PERFECT [13:15] *** seanr_ (n=chatzill@bam.idmi.poly.edu) joined [2:43:08 PM] PERFECT [13:15] *** Tresler (n=sam@128.238.241.85) joined [2:43:10 PM] PERFECT [13:16] Note: MYSQ, phpmyadmin, [2:43:12 PM] PERFECT [13:16] Note: Dreamhoast.com, site5.com, 10for10.com [2:43:25 PM] Fool2 wtf? [2:43:43 PM] deannaz for folks here in the intro session: http://www.cameronolthuis.com/2006/04/top-10-css-tutorials/ [2:44:17 PM] PERFECT Q: for development machines .... Apache? Xitami? What do we like? [2:44:58 PM] EricLLazarus is it a goal to avoid tables and use CSS for position? [2:45:51 PM] jacobredding Apache [2:45:58 PM] jacobredding I prefer CSS files for positioning.. [2:46:16 PM] deannaz avoid tables, yes, if possible [2:46:27 PM] Fool2 for those that have sites, what are your browser %s like on traffic [2:46:28 PM] jacobredding tables tend to create problems and most (all?) browsers now can render the css correctly.. within reason, of course, [2:46:38 PM] Fool2 and screen res [2:47:04 PM] NetAffect any php tutorials for us newbies? [2:47:04 PM] Fool2 I've found 88% of all of my users have screens 1024 or bigger [2:47:08 PM] jacobredding over 800 generally 1024 not very much 640 but it is still out there.. [2:47:09 PM] deannaz because as broswers evolve past desktop -- like mobile phones, etc., -- tables are becoming less useful/approved [2:47:20 PM] jacobredding exactly [2:47:30 PM] PERFECT jacobredding: Under windows? .... ever try Xitami? [2:47:48 PM] jacobredding Oh sorry PERFECT.. I do use windows.. ;) [2:47:59 PM] jacobredding servers or clients.. or development.. linux and OS X [2:48:05 PM] NetAffect should i run iis or apache on win box/ [2:48:18 PM] jacobredding I would run what your production machines are running.. [2:48:34 PM] jacobredding annoying difference between the two when using PHP [2:48:39 PM] NetAffect i get to choose. it is a windows server. [2:49:43 PM] jacobredding IIS on windows.. Apache is great.. I prefer to use Apache but on a windows server.. IIS.. [2:49:56 PM] eric0 drupal makes extensive use of apache functionality, for example url alias' are a hook into apache mod_rewrite, not sure how it would work on iis [2:50:04 PM] jacobredding use what is native.. it is just better that way.. admin tools are integrated and you don't run into quirky issues.. [2:50:57 PM] PERFECT Anybody have any Xitami feedback? [2:51:22 PM] VasKottas along the whole platform/tools question, what are people using for their dev. environment? I would love a simple but powerful PHP setup with a good debugger. [2:51:26 PM] VasKottas PhpEd? [2:51:30 PM] VasKottas Eclipse? [2:51:45 PM] *** KasCameo has left the channel () [2:51:50 PM] VasKottas (asking from a Windows perspective, but I imagine both are good for people) [2:51:58 PM] NetAffect any php tutorials to recommend? [2:52:48 PM] deannaz i'm no PHP expert, but what i've found is taking little PHP bits and playing with them [2:53:00 PM] deannaz like these: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-dhtml1/?ca=dgr-btw03PHP-DHTML [2:54:09 PM] NetAffect i guess i need more of an object orientd scripting language tutorial. [2:54:39 PM] NetAffect i am between a total noob and low low end advanced [2:55:01 PM] deannaz yeah, i don't really mess around too deeply unless i have to ;-) [2:55:09 PM] NetAffect thanks for the link [3:03:51 PM] *** michaelconnery has quit IRC () [3:06:24 PM] *** jochenhartmann has quit IRC () [3:07:06 PM] *** lev-rickards (n=lev-rick@128.238.241.97) has joined the channel [3:07:59 PM] *** lev-rickards has quit IRC (Client Quit) [3:09:17 PM] PERFECT Note: http://www.sarahavery.com [3:09:24 PM] *** jochenhartmann (n=jochenha@128.238.241.47) has joined the channel [3:10:22 PM] PERFECT Note: http://nylcv.civicactions.net/ [3:12:01 PM] PERFECT Note: http://nylcv.civicactions.net/chapters/long_island <<< great exmple of personality by area [3:12:14 PM] PERFECT Note: Flicker Feeds [3:15:27 PM] PERFECT http://www.civicactions.com/node/235 [3:15:56 PM] josh_k http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/05/linux-and-windows-compared-facts.html [3:18:48 PM] *** lev_ (n=lrickard@128.238.241.97) has joined the channel [3:19:09 PM] *** jochenhartmann has quit IRC () [3:20:20 PM] PERFECT Note: http://www.flickr.com/ [3:20:57 PM] meltedswiss what were the recommended hosting places. [3:21:05 PM] *** jochenhartmann (n=jochenha@128.238.241.47) has joined the channel [3:21:06 PM] EricLLazarus What were the things he said should be in all drupal sites? [3:21:13 PM] meltedswiss I want to get my shit in action tonight. [3:21:16 PM] EricLLazarus login toboggan [3:21:21 PM] EricLLazarus path auto [3:21:25 PM] EricLLazarus and what else? [3:21:32 PM] meltedswiss gmaps [3:21:45 PM] meltedswiss That's the one that notifies google of your site updates [3:21:49 PM] meltedswiss not gmaps. [3:21:51 PM] *** vade has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [3:21:55 PM] meltedswiss but something like that. [3:22:13 PM] meltedswiss map-site maybe [3:22:20 PM] PERFECT Note: http://www.php.net/downloads.php [3:23:26 PM] meltedswiss http://drupal.org/project/gsitemap [3:23:28 PM] meltedswiss that one [3:24:12 PM] nonecknoel http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/drupalcamp+nyc [3:26:33 PM] MacRonin I think that would be gsitemap [3:26:53 PM] PERFECT Note: Open Source ... Lampstack [3:27:03 PM] MacRonin opps just noticed meltedswiss beat me to it [3:27:04 PM] *** Gur has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [3:32:03 PM] *** libkuman (i=libkuman@nyc.openflows.org) has joined the channel [3:38:27 PM] nonecknoel was anyone looking for a wiki site? [3:38:38 PM] nonecknoel let's just use the barcamp... [3:38:49 PM] nonecknoel http://barcamp.org/DrupalCampNYC [3:44:28 PM] EricLLazarus Drupal is "model1" in the Java sense, right? There is no object model down there, is there? It is all done with relational modeling, not object modeling, correct? [3:44:39 PM] PERFECT Note: Groundspring [3:44:59 PM] PERFECT Note: http://www.aclu.tv/ [3:48:47 PM] *** deannaz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [3:51:32 PM] *** deannaz (n=koiwwiji@128.238.241.76) has joined the channel [4:01:30 PM] EricLLazarus When ie talks about salesforce foundatoin's thing, what is this? [4:03:18 PM] strudeau salesforce.com gives npos with relatively small needs a free account [4:03:26 PM] strudeau is not in that session [4:07:12 PM] PERFECT note: http://www.goodstorm.com [4:07:28 PM] seanr http://drupal.org/node/58700 [4:07:44 PM] *** bpuccio has quit IRC ("http://brianpuccio.net/") [4:09:48 PM] *** crunchywelch (n=welch@128.238.241.40) has joined the channel [4:14:50 PM] PERFECT Note: taxonomy_browser <<< goto NYLCV @ civicactions.net [4:18:19 PM] *** meltedswiss has left the channel () [4:20:05 PM] *** nonecknoel has quit IRC () [4:23:40 PM] *** deannaz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [4:26:21 PM] PERFECT Note: Mom's day pandering ... http://www.goodstorm.com/item/momsrising/momsrising_org_mens_standard_fit_t_shirt [4:44:04 PM] *** lev_ has quit IRC () [4:45:13 PM] *** NetAffect has quit IRC ("The computer fell asleep") [4:48:45 PM] *** lev_ (n=lrickard@128.238.241.97) has joined the channel [4:50:11 PM] *** PERFECT has quit IRC (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") [4:51:21 PM] *** dopry (n=dopry@128.238.241.22) has joined the channel [4:51:23 PM] *** lev_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [4:51:34 PM] dopry so whats going on over in the dev sessions? [4:51:54 PM] VasKottas we just got done with a discussion on source control with CVS - thrilling stuff :) [4:53:20 PM] dopry scary... [4:55:47 PM] dopry Did you cover syncing bzr with tailor and maintaining your own dists? 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